Plato's Symposium and Phaedrus

The and are Plato’s two dialogues about that is, desirous longing. In these new translations by former St. John’s College tutor Joe Sachs, the reader imaginatively becomes a member, if a silent one, of the conversations Socrates has with his companions. While both dialogues are love, they differ in intriguing and important ways. The conversation of the takes place in the countryside and that of the in Athens. In the only Socrates and Phaedrus are present; in the many participate in the drinking party. But in both, Socrates presents singularly abiding images: The winged horses and chariot in the ; the ladder of love in the These compelling images attract and move the reader to ask questions of the dialogues, which in their unique ways seem to reply. The interplay of the two texts may spark an unfolding in the reader’s thinking about love, but for the dialectical motion that must occur between the speeches and between the lines of Plato’s texts, the reader must do the work, provoked, invited, and assisted by what they contain. The context for our thinking includes in one case the subject of tragedy and comedy, in the other the nature of rhetoric and writing, but it is philosophy, and not poetry or politics, that persistently claims the center of attention. The dialogues themselves seem as different as night from day, as urbane wit from rustic charm—but do they point to opposing or converging attitudes toward erotic love?